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	<title>Comments on: APU 013</title>
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		<title>By: MikeM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grant,

Thanks for the comment. I agree. Missing that many radio calls and passing your destination is seriously negligent. Each safety reporting program has minor differences with each company, but they are basically the same. 

I think that these pilots would have lost their licenses anyway, but the concern with many pilots who operate within the system is that &quot;due process&quot; was ignored and the pilots were tried in the media. 

Everyone that I have talked to has agreed that the incident was grossly negligent, but that the rules of the safety reporting program as set between the FAA and the airline should have been honored.

What most are concerned about is the future integrity of the system.

I think the end result for the pilots would have been the same either way.

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grant,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment. I agree. Missing that many radio calls and passing your destination is seriously negligent. Each safety reporting program has minor differences with each company, but they are basically the same. </p>
<p>I think that these pilots would have lost their licenses anyway, but the concern with many pilots who operate within the system is that &#8220;due process&#8221; was ignored and the pilots were tried in the media. </p>
<p>Everyone that I have talked to has agreed that the incident was grossly negligent, but that the rules of the safety reporting program as set between the FAA and the airline should have been honored.</p>
<p>What most are concerned about is the future integrity of the system.</p>
<p>I think the end result for the pilots would have been the same either way.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Grant (Falcon124) McHerron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant (Falcon124) McHerron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the safety reporting systems were protection against inadvertent rules busts or accidental slip ups but NOT against major negligence. From where I&#039;m sitting (which is not the cockpit of airliner) it sure looks like negligence to get so distracted that you miss so many radio calls, fly past your destination, etc.

I&#039;m just in the private world and my airline flying experience is all in simulators (including simulating long, multi-hop flights in a 737 cockpit :) What am I missing here that shows how these professional pilots were not seriously negligent in the cockpit that day?

Cheers,

Grant
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the safety reporting systems were protection against inadvertent rules busts or accidental slip ups but NOT against major negligence. From where I&#8217;m sitting (which is not the cockpit of airliner) it sure looks like negligence to get so distracted that you miss so many radio calls, fly past your destination, etc.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just in the private world and my airline flying experience is all in simulators (including simulating long, multi-hop flights in a 737 cockpit <img src='http://flightpod.tv/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  What am I missing here that shows how these professional pilots were not seriously negligent in the cockpit that day?</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Grant<br />
(Falcon124)</p>
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